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znovu z Kanady -- what a country!

12/06/2004 | ladalesia
Lets see now. I go to a bank with another person to withdraw money. I use my bankbook and a legal withdrawal slip, the other guy uses a gun.

The police capture and arrest the criminal on the spot, but both our "transactions" are frozen.

Thirteen-fourteen days later, the authorities order us to report to the same bank in front of the same tellers and told to try withdrawing some money again, warning us to be good little boys!!

What's wrong with this picture, and where have I heard this before?!

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  • 2004.12.06 | ladalesia

    Re: znovu z Kanady -- what a country! - MORE

    Dear subscribers: (1) G. K. has repeatedly referred to Chapter 1, Article 5 of the Ukrainian Constitution stating that the Supreme Authority in Ukraine is the Ukrainian People and not the President, the Verkhovna Rada nor the Supreme Court. I would suggest that Dr. Knysh repost this Article periodically as a reminder. (Some people could add it to their "signature" comments.) Perhaps the demonstrators on Maidan Nezalezhnosti could display it prominently on their banners. (2) The Supreme Court has ruled that the Nov. 21, 2004 vote was falsified and that the Central Electoral Commission (CEC) was complicit in this falsification. It is absurd that the existing CEC has not been dismissed. I would suggest that the Yushchenko forces establish the composition of a new CEC (either unilaterally or in consultation with the Yanukovych forces) and present it as a fait accompli for Mr. Kuchma's approval. (3) Appended below is my message of a month ago on the concept of constitutional change. I repeat once more. The Ukrainian People must not allow constitutional changes to be made by political elites vying for political and economic power at the expense of the People. Constitutional changes at a later date are probably necessary, but this must be done via a carefully defined constitutional process. Regards W. Z. _____ To: Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [politics] Political reconfigurations Dear subscribers: To Canadians the following excerpt "(1) The political reform which transfers much power from the President to the Premier will be enacted before 1 January 2005, and will take effect as of 1 January 2006." from the message below summarizing the Yushchenko-Moroz agreement evokes images of the Meech Lake Accord and the Charlottetown Accord from about 1987 to 1992. The Canadian political elite tried to ram through constitutional changes, but it was rejected by the people in a referendum. I do not see how Yushchenko-Moroz can morally or legally propose that they will unilaterally change the Ukrainian Constitution without consulting the Ukrainian people. By definition, all constitutional changes must be ratified by the people via a specific referendum on the proposed changes. And these changes must be proposed by specially constituted constituent assemblies drawn from the people and not by politicians of any ilk. I would suggest that Yushchenko-Moroz can state that they will support the establishment of such a process to examine and propose the redistribution of powers between the President and the Verkhovna Rada, but they cannot "a priori" state what the outcome of this process will be. I maintain that politicians should not be in control of any constitution-changing process. Regards W. Z. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. K. To: Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:06 AM Subject: [politics] Political reconfigurations Moroz and the Socialists are now officially in the Yushchenko Presidential camp. Moroz was on the platform during today's Kyiv mass meeting. Kinakh (Premier after Yushchenko and before Yanuk) is expected to join on Monday. On the other hand, Vitrenko has declared support for Yanuk, and Symonenko is holding "discussions" with him. In passing, Kyiv mayor Omel'chenko declared that he had voted for Vitrenko in the first round... Some points in the agreement between Yushchenko and Moroz: (1) The political reform which transfers much power from the President to the Premier will be enacted before 1 January 2005, and will take effect as of 1 January 2006. (2) There will be no mass privatization of agricultural land. (3) There will be no privatization of "strategic" economic objects. (4) Ukrainian troops will be withdrawn from Irak within days. (5) Criminal cases will instantly be opened in the Gongadze and all other outstanding affairs.


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