Відповіді

• 2005.10.08 | Ex

  The infrangible Union of Ukrainian and American bureaucrats

  to Olha K.
  
  Американська відповідь та незамінна допомога нашому Президенту та українській науці.
  Ознайомився.
  Багато цікавого. Існує наприклад Science and Technology Center in Ukraine.
  Цвіте та квітне традиція проведення таємничих конференцій. Головне, що елітних. Немає значення, що про їхнє проведення наукова громада дізнається, коли вже потяг пішов. Й не соромляться!
  Ті ж самі члени Оргкомітету, що у групі, яка створена за наказом Президента, за винятком академіка Шпака.
  Які постаті!
  А які актуальні доповіді! Раджу ознайомитися.
  
  Дуже багата на гроши й радників країна Сполучені Штати!!!
  Long live domestic and American bureaucrats!
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  • 2005.10.10 | Olha_K

    не за адресою, претензії - організаторам.

    я ж просто вирішила тут розмістити це повідомлення, як відносно релевантне до форуму.
    
    > Цвіте та квітне традиція проведення таємничих конференцій.
    
    чого це вони таємні? навіть матеріали доступні онлайн. якщо спрацюють нормально, то і рекомендації можна буде пізніше почитати.
    
    >Головне, що елітних.
    
    це звісно, свок дрімучий. Ні, не совок, а "новоукраїнськість". Мине, будемо сподіватися.
    
    >Немає значення, що про їхнє проведення наукова громада дізнається, коли вже потяг пішов. Й не соромляться!
    
    Це проблема Ваша і організаторів. Якщо Ви вважаєте, що Вас повинні були запросити - могли б цікавитись більше. Всі матеріали є доступними онлайн. Мені це через розсилку прийшло, як нагадування, значить, були попередні повідомлення.Якщо погано проведена підготовка, це теж не новина. Напишіть їм листа з рекомендаціями щодо наступних заходів.
    
    Решта - лірика без конструктиву, яку коментувати сенсу немає.

• 2005.10.17 | Olha_K

  Ось ще така прийшла стаття про співпрацю з "буржуями" (англ)

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  19. US FUNDING BOOSTS EX-SOVIET SCIENTISTS INCLUDING UKRAINE
  Security concerns spur local
  projects
  
  By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff, Boston Globe
  Boston, Massachusetts, Friday, October 14, 2005
  
  WASHINGTON -- The US government is providing millions of dollars in grants to Boston-area universities, medical centers, and high-tech companies to help employ idle scientists in the former Soviet Union, including weapons specialists who might otherwise be enticed to sell their deadly expertise on the black market.
  
  Dozens of scientists and state laboratories who have fallen on hard times since the collapse of the communist government are collaborating with researchers at universities including Harvard, Tufts, and MIT, as well as New England Medical Center and other area hospitals and technology companies, according to government documents.
  
  The 36 projects underway in Massachusetts and in some former Soviet-bloc countries include efforts to develop new types of prosthetic limbs, survey the ecological damage to the Caspian and Black seas, and prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS in Uzbekistan, according to data compiled by the Globe.
  
  But behind those pursuits is a far more serious fear that -- without the grants -- the scientists might be tempted by bribes or coerced by terrorists, according to national security analysts.
  
  In the first poll of its kind, a recent US Department of Energy survey of more than 600 Russian physicists, chemists, and biologists found that about 20 percent say they would consider working for terrorist groups or so-called rogue states accused of sponsoring terrorism if they became desperate enough for work.
  
  Since the mid- to late 1990s, the US government has granted more than 14,000 former Soviet scientists direct payments -- sometimes called ''welfare science" -- simply to keep them from working for countries that support terrorism. But a more recent grant program is offering scientists meaningful work with some of the top American research institutions in hopes that they can bring some of their ideas to the commercial market, security analysts say.
  
  ''I think it is very beneficial because it allows them to grow and is a way for us to see some of their ideas," said Daniel Serfaty, the president and founder of Aptima Inc., in Woburn. Aptima has been collaborating with former weapons scientists at a company called Computer Sciences in Kiev, Ukraine, through a $200,000 Civilian Research and Development Foundation grant and $50,000 of the company's own money.
  
  Aptima is working with the Ukrainians to develop business software, but other collaborations range from enhancing national security to protecting the environment.
  
  For example, Harvard researchers are working with the Institute of Biophysics in Siberia to identify ways to rapidly detect chemical or biological weapons. Researchers at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution have teamed up with the Marine Hydrophysical Institute in Ukraine to study the ecosystem of the Black Sea.
  
  The CRDF, which is funded by a combination of federal tax dollars, private donations, and contracts, is located in a nondescript office tower in Arlington, Va. The foundation was established by the US Congress and gets its federal funding through the National Science Foundation. It has an annual budget of roughly $21 million.
  
  The CRDF hopes to fill a critical gap for the remains of the massive Soviet military and civilian research complex. Salaries for government scientists have plummeted in the former Soviet Union, where research funding has dropped by up to 75 percent since the end of the Cold War. Supporters of the program tell the story of a Ukrainian weapons scientist who had been reduced to harvesting potatoes to feed his family.
  
  Meanwhile, terrorist groups like Al Qaeda and states with links to terrorism, such as Iran, are willing to pay top dollar for the scientific expertise that could produce a weapon of mass destruction. It's unclear exactly how effective the program has been in keeping scientists away from such employers; no data exists on the subject. But given the destitute state of the former Soviet Union's scientific community, and the potential benefits of joint projects, some US researchers say the CRDF grants are money well spent.
  
  ''The entire Russian budget for science is less than the entire budget for some US institutions from the National Institutes of Health," said Dr. Gerald R. Pier, a researcher at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston who recently received a $64,000 grant with the Zelinskii Institute of Organic Chemistry in Moscow to study potential vaccines for bacterial infections. Most of the money will go to the Moscow institute, he said, because ''they need it more than I do."
  
  In Uzbekistan, where rampant intravenous drug use has dramatically increased the spread of HIV/AIDS, the government has little infrastructure to deal with public health problems. That's where Donald S. Shepard, a health economics professor at Brandeis University, hopes to help. With a grant from CRDF, he recently hosted a workshop for Uzbek officials in Boston and joined with Azizbek Boltaev, a physician at the Bukhara Regional Addiction Clinic, to design a research study that would provide addicts with craving-reduction medication and create a needle exchange program.
  
  The team is now awaiting word on their application to CRDF for a $100,000 grant. ''Almost all would go to the Uzbek colleagues," Shepard said.
  
  Some of the grants have rescued former Soviet research facilities set to close. Working with Tufts University and the New England Sinai Hospital and Rehabilitation Center in Stoughton, the Albrecht Center for Occupational Expertise, Prosthetics, and Rehabilitation in St. Petersburg developed new prosthetics that more closely mimic the anatomy of human joints and feet.
  
  ''We were able to keep running our biomechanics laboratory, preserving our highly qualified staff, and expanding our equipment inventory," Dr. Konstantin Scherbina, the deputy director, said in an interview via e-mail
  from St. Petersburg. On Jan. 1, the laboratory will become the Department of Biomechanics, ''the only such scientific unit in Russia," he said.
  
  Not all CRDF projects have borne fruit. The Aptima-Computer Sciences business software hasn't hit the market yet, despite several years of collaboration. ''Until we resolve some issues of intellectual property, we have decided to put a hold on some additional investment," said Serfaty.
  
  But there is little choice but to expand and improve the collaboration, according to Deborah Yarsike Ball, a national security analyst at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and a co-author of the recent energy department survey of Russian scientists.
  
  ''Science in Russia is still very much in a state of flux," she said in an interview. ''And Russia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Everything is a payoff. That's not conducive to the kind of culture we want that feels strongly about keeping their knowledge. The problem is not going to go away any time soon."
  
  -30- [Action Ukraine Report Monitoring]
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  • 2005.10.18 | Олена

    Ну и что тут плохого?

    Действительно, если "буржуи" не будут финансировать наших ученых они того и гляди продадутся Аль Каиде и им подобным, или просто эммигрируют. Так что же, нам, неспособным поддерживать свою науку, еще и фыркать на них, "буржуев", презрительно? Деньги то предлагают владывать в местные институты, местные проекты, да и исследования предлагают мирового значения. Так что радоваться надо пока хотят с нами сотрудничать.

• 2005.10.30 | Хома Брут

  люди - хто піде туди - напишіть що було

  я почитав частину статей, які з цього приводу висять на сайті CRDF. Мені сподобалося оця:
  
  http://www.crdf.org/events/events_show.htm?doc_id=305230 (дивись кінець сторінки)
  Mehrle, "Linkages between University Research and Industry"
  
  в якій здається найменше відношення кількості того, що "треба забезпечити", до розповіді про те, що десь реально спрацювало.